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#1 Glaze

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 02:45

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Table of Contents
  • Prologue
  • Equipment
  • Building the Build
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Prologue
This class was to flawed in my eyes as well but its damage per second and mobility are top-notch compared to all the other classes. The major flaw they had was regeneration being assassins and all they always have to be cloaked, thus stopping regeneration! But due to large updates throughout GRO this has been solved by obtaining +10 Tirfing [2]x2 with this a GX can regenerate upto 32k every 10 seconds. I wouldn't say that it's the best regeneration out there but atleast you gain some hp even in cloaking. Obviously there new sonic blow skill called Cross Impact allowing them to use daggers to hit multiple times like the old sonic blow with an addition to range!!
 
Equipment
Armor
30001.png/30012.png?nocache=1262467200/30164.png?nocache=1160269986/30017.png?nocache=1171174646Headgear(top) - BVH DLH GDH or PRISM#2 or #3 ~ personally the most recommended one would be Prism#3 if you are facing other GX's MayaP effect makes a huge difference KIEL
Headgear(mid) - Anything slotted would work put kiel in it.
5521.png?nocache=1880950671Headgear(low) - for meginjard users or just for pure speed types use angry mouth 3% aftercast delay basically a 1/10 of a kiel. If you want damage go use an attack adding headgear like Pirate Dagger.
2387.png?nocache=1062829038Armor"s" - Sprint Mail[1] with tao / marc / evil druid / argiope / porcellio
2541.png?nocache=977839658/2554.png?nocache=462876394Garment"s" - Aesprika or Proxy with devi / noxious / Myst
2440.png?nocache=668170580Shoe - Sprint Shoes with Amon
2744.png?nocache=1383466672/2629.png?nocache=1331369820/2703.png?nocache=1401709845/Accessories"s" - MUST have sprint ring to complete set. Expert Ring [Bronzering, Marine Sphere, Horong, Errende Ebecce], Meginjard
Weapons - Obviously this has been calculated for the soul purpose of high cross impact damage.
Right Handed Weapons - All attack cards are based on this weapon for cross impact.
  • 13009.png?nocache=2126013225#1 Best +10 Glorious Damascus *crucial must be +10 to be the best anything below becomes weaker than balmung[3]
  • 1533.png?nocache=341219706#2 +10 Balmung[3] with Turtle General Hydra and Skeleton Worker - and yes it is a dagger.
  • 13027.png?nocache=2088799113/1237.png?nocache=733709775#3&4 +10 Grimtooth [2] with Turtle General & Hydra or +10 Mes[3] with Turtle General Hydra and Skeleton Worker
  • Mes is easily obtainable but grimtooth's damage peaks highers and dips lower. Mes has a more solid damage.
Left Handed Weapons - if its for cross impact this weapon does not matter only the cards inside matter. Multiple Left hands are best.
  • For Hit +10 Desert Wind[4] Phreeoni Drake (damage card varies depending on right handed weapon) Thanatos
    • If you have +10 Glorious Damascus use Turtle General
    • If you have +10 Balmung[3] it does not matter theoretically - I prefer Hydra.
    • If you have +10 Grimtooth[2] I prefer skeleton worker
    • If you have +10 Mes[3] it does not matter theoretically - I prefer Hydra.
  • For Damage +10 Desert Wind[4] 2x(Damage Card Varies) Thanatos Drake Basically the same for everything.
    • If its +10 Glorious Damascus use 2x Turtle General
    • If its +10 Balmung[3] 1 Hydra 1 Turtle General
    • If its +10 Grimtooth[2] 1 Hydra 1 Skeleton worker
    • If its +10 Mes[3] 1 Hydra 1 Turtle General
2 Handed Weapons - For SB and flee ignoring critical hits.
  • 1266.png?nocache=497905225#1 Best for Damage +10 Infiltrator[1] Thanatos
  • 1266.png?nocache=497905225#2 for Damage +10 Infiltrator[1] Incantation Samurai
  • 1266.png?nocache=497905225#3 for Damage +10 Infiltrator[1] Hydra / Tgen / Paper(exclusive to just critical hits *can increase damage using magnum break with marine sphere)
  • 1271.png?nocache=390642630#1 for Hit +10 Blood Tear[2] Phreeoni + Thanatos / Incantation Samurai or a damage card
  • I haven't fully tested all possibilities but this is what I came up with so far.
Consumable Items
  • 12319.png?nocache=569222086 Rune Strawberry Cake the description is wrong its actually 5% attack and magic attack for 10 minutes - not sure about duration script says 60000 seconds which should be in ms so i divided by 6000 (60seconds * 1000ms)
  • 682.png?nocache=1553560860 Distilled Fighting Spirits adds 30 attack for 10 minute - same thing with this
  • 525.png?nocache=556807259 Panacea cures curse blinding and non EDP poison.
  • 606.png?nocache=487494923 Aloevera - Level 1 provoke obviously for the same duration as level 1 provoke.
  • 12437.png?nocache=2120378505Concentrated Ceromain Soup - Adds attack speed for 30 minutes
  • 14510.png?nocache=603855158 Light Awakening Potion - Adds attackspeed for 30 minutes
  • 12114.png?nocache=89259535112115.png?nocache=30334569112116.png?nocache=16704700512117.png?nocache=265257353 Elemental Converters - Changes element that corresponds to item.
 
Building your Build
Honestly just refer to previous versions below (the attachments)
Steps into creating the build for your GX's - why cause it'd be better have a nice match to your gx's build than just simply copyin ones I provided.
Step one deciding on how much hit you want. It should be around 150 or higher since you have a phreeoni card. My personal suggestion is 170.
Next is adjusting your agility to the appropriate attack speed, this varies for a lot due to different guillotine crosses. Apply Ceromain Soups with the Light awakening potions. Before adding AGI.
After that it is deciding whether you want to have flexibility of going critical type(ignores flee,but not perfect dodge.)or higher attack with str, I calculated that having Luk around 66ish gives the same amount of status attack as 22str, which is also a lot cheaper in status points as well.
Int is a given 99 for Amon Ra.
Str depends on you I usually sim for 165 or higher.
Vit is resistance, I aim for at least 1m HP with Tao Gunka.
There's the build. Your own custom build.
Currently Under Construction.
 
Previous Versions
Spoiler

The main use of GX is slowly changing many believe that running poisons is an embarrassment but the class needs to use it now since cloaking disables any type of regen and out of cloak makes us sitting ducks, The only embarrassment out there is logging out from a fight. Now I will begin the FaQ.
What is the best weapons for cross impact?
Well, I would think +10 Grimtooth [2] Explosive Bloody with +10 Explosive Penetration Perfect Desert Wind of Infinity would be the best but, I don't have the money to test myself theres always the +10 Balmung[3] Explosive Bloody Boned with a +10 Explosive Penetration Perfect Desert Wind of Infinity. the most expensive, its a fucking godhelm in a weapon.
What is the better cross impact or sonic blow?
To be honest. it all depends on the scenario, I honestly believe sonic blow is better, just because it has 8 hits instead of 7 it has its downsides suchas, lower range, katar lower flexibility, and harder spam rate It's upsides are +50 Hit, 2xLink, and Advanced Katar Mastery.
What is the weapon for Sonic Blow?
Straight forward +10 Penetration Infiltrator, this badboy with link can dish around 11-17k on aesprika users, while cross impact can't. Downside is it lacks hit and slots, +50 Hit might be good but ur still missing another 50 for phreeoni effect. Might want to make a Hit weapon I'd suggest a +10 Penetration Perfect Bloody Blade for SB.
What is better for breaking?
Honestly your in the wrong section here I have no idea ask a specialist, but I'll try to answer this the best way I can as well I can. +10 Mes [Orc skeleton, Abysmal Knight, Desert Wolf] and a +10 Mes [Turtle General, Thanatos, Abysmal Knight] The use of 2 Mes' is since you are breaking emp theres no need for drake, so theres no need for the last slot.

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 02:49

this guides seems to be coming along nicely...informitive go Francis
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 06:43

I'd like the HYTB.
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 07:47

i tried between hydra,paper,tgen..& the result is so dffrent...
when i used hydra in +10 infli venom impress+edp the damage is like 14.5k+
while paper venom impress+edp=15+ almost 16k
& tgen venom impress+edp=16k+...:o
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 09:57

Well then good for you but i already tested it you should try the differences with a specialty jur before hand just so its safer the initial damage with paper is far larger but after meleeing you could obtain a boost from magnum break only temporarily though. Ohh and you were probably using a ring of fire lord as well since that ring adds some sort of fire enhancement so the magnum break increased ur overall damage. Just a hunch.
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:34

Well then good for you but i already tested it you should try the differences with a specialty jur before hand just so its safer the initial damage with paper is far larger but after meleeing you could obtain a boost from magnum break only temporarily though. Ohh and you were probably using a ring of fire lord as well since that ring adds some sort of fire enhancement so the magnum break increased ur overall damage. Just a hunch.


owh thats right i were using ring of fire lord & thief ring...:D..btw ur dagger build does work very well with me..;)
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 12:40

yay, when my gx levels up i wanna be just like you frufru :P
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 20:39

Ohh if you were to use thief ring and ring of fire lord together i doubt youll accomplish anything as suggested on the guide a thief ring and cold heart offer a 8% more damage on medium sized enemies
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 20:55

the build you suggested on HYTA, is that the complete build??
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 21:11

Well that's all I needed so ya seems complete for me what's it missing?
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 21:24

coz I followed the 200 str and dex thing, and put in 99 int then agi + awakening to aspd 93, it consumed all of the SP, nothing more you can put on vit nor luk, I tried it..

or is there something I missed.. :huh:
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 21:59

I think you did something wrong remember you are suppose to use katars when you do hyta and as I said 2 ifrit cards are needed that should give you 24 crit which you add luck to achieve 50 crit I also use vh you can tweak the build if you don't have a vh ofc I only needed 114 agility

Well here's my build off the top of my head I think it's 195 str 114 agi 110 vit 99 int 200 dex and 67 luk
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:17

I think you did something wrong remember you are suppose to use katars when you do hyta and as I said 2 ifrit cards are needed that should give you 24 crit which you add luck to achieve 50 crit I also use vh you can tweak the build if you don't have a vh ofc I only needed 114 agility

Well here's my build off the top of my head I think it's 195 str 114 agi 110 vit 99 int 200 dex and 67 luk


I see, well I have derived a few builds of my own off from the suggested builds that you created, but I've got to admit, these builds are good, its just a matter of which kind of GX you want to be.. :)

Keep it up.. ;)
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oh I miss my gltX..
with i could return.. (--,)\m/,
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 04:25

+1 nice guide..
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really helpful guide , thanks a lot !
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Posted 12 February 2011 - 03:24

Hi!
First of all, thank you for the guide, it realy helped me. But as I'm still new to the renewal features I still have some question about some new skills like those new poisons GCs can make.

->Would you recomend to use any of the poisons in pvp? If yes, whitch?
->Does the poisons afect MVPs?
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 00:11

i have ben trying to make the new poisons and i have been gathering ingredients to make around 5k bottles but when i try to make one for example curse of oblivion i cant... i bought bottles and all but it says that im not able to make any poison... what could it be?

i asume that blade type gx is mess since the gx gets pretty heavy with 2 blades... and no... you dont get that much crit point with so little used on luk stat... i had to get my luk to 170 to get 52 crit. and for all the types up there you can add sk or LoD which make your life easier

for the rest i love it... nice guides
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 01:48

Make sure you're using, 'make new poison' and you have a poison manifacturing kit, and also medicine bowls.
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Posted 04 March 2011 - 06:13

where can i get medicine bowl?... didnt know that part
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