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  1. 14 points
    Nicocaine

    Armor Refinement Increase

    Original: Upgrade: Upgrade Armor +1 100% +2 100% +3 100% +4 100% +5 80% +6 65% +7 50% +8 35% +9 25% +10 20% +11 18% +12 18% +13 16% +14 14% +15 12% +16 9% +17 9% +18 8% +19 5% +20 5% Reference: Refinement System by Everade A reasonable upgrade might be good. Refining weapons using Mechanics have additional effects. The armors are much harder to get and to refine than weapons. What do you think?
  2. 5 points
    Shuichi

    Armor Refinement Increase

    I'm like 50% - 50% to this suggestion. I haven been playing lately for WB (honestly), but since months ago I've been trying to get a +10 in my staff and a plus to my Bow, and I just got it yesterday because I've been waiting to get enough Blessed Weapon Ores to fail like 8 and 1 as success (just for example) without count those I lost many time ago and failed. Since I can't play WoE because my time zone, for me is more hard to get those Ores with WoE Fragments, so I have to wait daily for my daily reward and get a chest or refine box, or buy them doing Daily Quest, so it means I depend only of that to get a single Blessed Ore per month. And then I think... yeah, we have more options to get those Ores, but I have to wait like a month or more for one... and then fail (Ore weapon or armor) but since we are talking only for armor I don't see the problem (or all this), for me will be more drama and salt if we were talking about Blessed Weapon Ores (tbh). Certificates are easy to get, and helps a lots, so I think they are ok where they are. Still, I have been reading all this and I think everyone have a fair point, I'm just sharing my opinion since I know I'm not the only one with this "problem". Relax guys.
  3. 5 points
    Everade

    Fixes & Updates

    Commands - Fixed our custom command @whosell The search results should now be fully accurate again. Invasions - Fixed several monster spawns during the monster invasions - Several tweaks on the monster invasions such as monster amount or monster type - Goldring Boss does no longer drop golden apples to balance the reward amount for the new monster invasions Items - Increased drop chance for Orlean's Glove which was below 1% - Further fixes and improvements on the Flying Galapago item script bonus - Fixed Pimp Hat, Illyrian Headdress, Drooping Garm and Ring of the 4 Lords class restrictions. Now every job class should be able to wear them. - Fixed Event Angeling Egg and Event Cosmic Egg trade restrictions PvP Arenas - Renting an arena costs now zeny only, the obisidan fragment requirement has been removed - The Duellist now displays the current amount of rented arenas above his head - The Unknown Fighters located in all towns now include the PvP Arenas in their total player count This will make it easier for duellists to find opponents.
  4. 4 points
    Aketsu

    BG WINS REWARD

    Most of the time a few players are playing bg to achieve the "dailies reward". As soon as they get their 5 wins they quit or help the other guys to get the reward aswell. When this cycle is over most of them stop to play bg for the whole day. The "dailies reward" system is something rly used nowadays but in this case is not rly helping to increase the amount of players playing bg. From the other side removing it will probably end up in less ppl playing bg... At this point my suggestion is to increase the "steps" of the rewards, so: 5 wins - +100 badges (+ a low chance of winning the chests we already have, 1-2% sound ok) 10 wins - +100 badges (+ a low chance of winning the chests we already have (1-2%chance) + a chance of winning a safe refine certificate beetween +6 and +8 (5-10%) 20 wins - +150 badges (+ a low chance of winning the chests we already have + a low chance of winning a safe refine certificate beetween +7 and +9 (10%) This might look OP but to win 20 times you will need some hours of bg play time (that's idd an hard work). I'm sure this will make bg more attractive giving to everyone the chance to get multiple sets (for switching purpose and for different classes) and also get some certificate to upgrade their stuffs. Hope to get positive feedbacks as this will help to increase ppl playing bg and having better gears to be competitive in WOE.
  5. 4 points
    Everade

    Cash Shop Update

    The halloween events have ended. All halloween themed content has been removed from the cash shop as well. Added new time limited content to the Hot section of the cash shop. -20% price reduction on all headgears (costumes excluded) Fixes - Fixed Erendes Battlegrounds invitational announcement issues. The timer got stuck when a player triggered the announcement and then logged out of the game. This prevented players to re-invite players after a few minutes.
  6. 4 points
    aLeL

    Armor Refinement Increase

    +1 to this idea......it also helping newbie....so that they wont have hard time upgrading there gear.
  7. 4 points
    Hersheys

    Armor Refinement Increase

    WARNING: WALLS OF TEXT. AKA a very long read I actually refrained from having to go into this topic because I noticed that unless the suggestion is very minor, a mixture of me and F4E would be bad luck when it comes to getting a suggestion approved, let alone get an official response from. But you tagged me XD BLESSED ARMOR ORES,,, Okay so that's 1 Blessed Armor Ore per month guaranteed from Daily Rewards. The other daily rewards box, you won't get an assured Blessed Armor Ore all the time. Let's say you might get a Blessed Armor Ore once every 2 months. Reasonable estimate. The invasion rewards, how low is the chance to get a Blessed Armor Ore? How many Blessed Armor Ores have you gotten from it, recently? I'm not too familiar with it's rewards because I've only gotten an Angeling Egg twice from Golden Apples and plenty more with just Poring Eggs. But none had the item description of getting refine items. I specifically say Blessed Armor Ore in this topic because it's about armor upgrades One of the best case scenarios for buying Blessed Armor Ores with Emp Frags would be to get 50 frags per WoE. 4x a week. Blessed Armor Ore box costs 200 Emp Frags. In this scenario, in a month you can get 4 Blessed Armor Ores from the WoE Shop. Given that most players here have either school or work in real life to deal with, this isn't going to be the scenario they'll have. To top it off, you'll need to get 50 per WoE. I mostly get 43 frags per WoE and can usually WoE only 3x a week, and I'm one of the most consistently WoE active players around. In my situation, coming from one of the most WoE active players around, that would afford me 2 Blessed Armor Ores per month, from approximately 516 Emp Frags. Had I gotten 50 Emp Frags per WoE, that would afford me 3 Blessed Armor Ores per month, but it's not very realistic to expect to get 50 each time. I used to be able to get 50 per WoE easily a year ago but not with the current algorithm now. Take note, I do damage Guardians and Break Emperiums, aside from killing enemies, and buff party members with Wind Walks (I know, lol) Given that I'm well-equipped and very WoE active and still can't get 4 Blessed Armor Ores from the WoE Shop per month, do you think a new average player can consistently get 4 per month too? Or would the realistic number be 2 to 3, like me? I know it's a 1 ore difference but you'll see where I'm heading to With these numbers, we can say that the average newbie non-donator player that has work/school can plausibly and consistently get 5 every month. 3 from the WoE Shop. 2 From Daily Quest (if you're lucky to get an additional 1 more from that random box). Stay with me Now the equivalent of 25 Blessed Ores, for that average newbie non-donator player that has work/school, would be 5 months worth. What's this have to do with anything? Well, I very recently just used 23 Blessed Armor Ores, and payed @D e M o N for 2 more. The item we were trying to refine was a +8 Armor. A type of armor that you wouldn't want to risk breaking because it's expensive to get another one. It's not like a Valkyrie Shield or a WoE Plate or a White Wing Suit that you can farm easily and just use regular ores to upgrade it with because you can get some more if it breaks. No, this +8 Armor we were trying to refine was going to be a pain in the ass to get again, just like most BG/WoE account bound armor. We were trying to get it to +10. You know what we ended up with? Only a +9 of that said armor. Used 7 Blessed Armor Ores to get it from +8 to +9. And 13 More Blessed Armor Ores just trying, and all failed, to get to +10. That was worth 5 months of Blessed Ores for the average newbie non-donator player Picture this, you're that newbie. You played for 5 months and saved all those ores to upgrade your BG Armor. They're gone and all you have to show for it is one of them at +9. You still have the BG shoe and the BG manteau to upgrade to +10 too. Remember, the bonuses max at +10. Why not just use +9 refine cert, you may ask? Okay, you used +9 Refine, and used 13 Blessed Armor Ores (that's 2 months and a half's worth to get) to try to get to +10. This was the situation I was in: I had a +9 armor and used 13 Blessed Armor Ores. All 13 failed and you didn't get to +10. Your 2 and a half months worth of ores was wasted. Remember, you're new. You're not an old player with lots of MVPs or Zeny to fall back to. Again, you still have your BG Shoe and your BG Manteau to get to +10. You couldn't even reach it with just your BG Armor. Your play style needs armor switchings and such? Well looks like you need another set of +10's huh? Such timely dedication would be standard if you played in iRO... but that's the official RO. Where such grinding is standard " Maybe you were just unlucky Kat" you might think. This isn't the first time it happened. 6 or 8 months ago, I donated for 80 Blessed Ores worth in one seating. My boyfriend wasn't too happy for spending so much and that would be the last time I'll go ballin' like that. But what did I get with those ores? A +13 Weapon (Level 4) A +13 Armor A +11 Headgear 80 Blessed Ores! That's a continuous 1 Year and 4 Months worth of Blessed Ores through the WoE Shop and the Daily Rewards, if you're the average non-donator player! I know, I included a weapon in there, which has a higher rate of refining, but still.. that's what I got with 80. I know, I'm not the average non-donator player and no one forced me to donate. But that's hardly my point My point is, if your premise is to add more Blessed Ores to all kinds of reward systems, so that you have more Ores to use... well, I had 80 of those. I have two items that are +13 an another that is +11 as a result. Let's say you have more ways of getting Blessed Ores in other reward systems and getting 80 Blessed Ores will take you 1 Year to get instead... would the average new player that's not a donator be willing to go through all that, for a year, WoE active the entire time, just to get a +13 Weapon, a +13 Armor, and a +11 Headgear? Of course that new player can do other things aside from that in that 1 year. Hunt MVPs, try to make a god item, etc. But doing those would have nothing to do with upgrading account bound armor and this is what the topic is about: upgrading armor. No amount of MVPs and god items and zeny would help with upgrading armor, so that's irrelevant to the topic Just throwing more ores at the problem isn't a good solution because I went through 1 year and 4 months worth of ores all at once and you read the result HD ORES,,, For one thing, you can't consistently get HD Carniums and HD Eluniums just from the Daily Rewards, because they're random. You also can't get HD Carniums from the WoE Shop. They're also only a low chance from invasions. I can't calculate what the average non-donator player can get in a month, if you need a consistent number to use for an estimate However! @Khaii do you still remember when we were upgrading that green item that was a Level 1 Weapon's chances in refining? You know what I'm talking about. But we combined our resources together and I had donated to get 166 pieces, a mix of HD Bradium and HD Oridecon and you had around 20 HD's too? We were trying to get that Level 1 Weapon to +15 remember? But we ended up wasting all those HD's and we decided to just settle with a +12 or +13? We were basically taking one step forward and two steps back. This was a Level 1 Weapon. How many months do you think would it take to save up 166 + 20 mix of HDs if you're a new non-donator player? Now imagine if it was armor. The insane amount of HD we would have needed The success rates are the problem, not the amount of ores/HD's you can get from different reward systems. The "get more ores" suggestion would be the equivalent of giving a potential sniper soldier, who already has a standard amount of ammo, more and more bullets to use, instead of sending him to training to improve his aim and become a better shooter Based off the numbers I have above, it wouldn't be 1, 2, 3~ quickly like that. It showed how it would have taken 1 Year and 4 Months worth of saving for the average new non-donator player that has work/school. And remember, those "high-end" gears aren't even god items. Safe certi is only limited to +9. Now we have lots of armors, and I'm not even including Shadow Armors, that refine rates have a significant impact on it's effects... and those go beyond +9. Heck, I used a +8 Refine Certi and 25 Blessed Ores later and I only got a +9 The admin already did that. He made new WoE overhaul, added those exclusive BG items, added rewards to Invasions and World Boss. Motivation to get players to participate more? I would say new content. When the WoE overhaul just got implemented there were lots of players who wanted to get the new items. Same goes for the revamped BG. The admin has added several new items/costumes into those systems from time to time to motivate players to try and get them too. A lot of people farmed OGH to get the Temporal Boots and the Faceworm skins because it was new content. gRO is far behind when it comes to the latest private server instances. Plenty of other servers have them. Imagine if all those new content got implemented. They would far surpass the participation of the current BG/Invasions/WB. But I know that part of playing this server is patience with updates. I understand that the admin is the only one working with fixing and scripting things. It's a one man team when it comes to that so of course it'll take time. I like the server regardless. Not so much him. Anyways I'll stop it right there because I'm one warn away from being banned here in the forums, and I need to post in the Buying/Selling section. I also don't want this post to get censored (deleted) just for criticism towards the server because these walls of text are taking a ton of time to write up. There's nothing significant we can really do much on our side since that's more to do with behind the scenes stuff. Donating just helps keep up with the cost of running the server but it won't magically get scripts and instances just pop up and get implemented I have no problem with those suggestions Pfff I wouldn't hold my breath for safe certi suggestion implementations. Several suggestion threads were made about that: like putting them in the BG shop or the DQ shop or in the cash shop. Most specially if the suggestion came from me. I'm not very well liked by you know who Well I don't mind discussing different opinions with you too. I won't have to worry about being censored at least. Maybe that very lengthy wall of text above that you'll hopefully read will make you see it from another point of view though Hm but the risk of breaking your item just from decarding was removed however. Yeah, there was no safety refine certificates and blessed ores back then but the rates for refinement were higher back then too. Before it was stolen from me (but was retrieved after), I made a +17 Gate Keeper DD [2] back then with just a ton of Gate Keepers [2] and Oridecons. Nowadays, any +15 Crimson items would be extremely rare to come by and would be ultra expensive to buy from someone. We also had a bigger population back then that could do the upgrades. Also the pool of armors back then weren't as reliant on upgrade levels like today. What was the best seller high-upgrade armor back then? A +10 Valkyrie Manteau? These are just truisms. Of course those items are readily available for use and will help with upgrading XD As for the increases, see the chart below: This suggestion only really helps get armors from +5 to +8. 80% seems high to get to +5? Well no armor is truly OP at +5 now is it? It also helps those that are willing to use Enriched Eluniums to get to the +6 level so they can then start using either Blessed Armor Ores or the HD ones at 7. It's a gateway increase so that they have access and the opportunity to use Blessed Armor Ores/HD's. And really.. which armors are OP at +6 and +7? From +9 to +10, it's only a 5% increase. From +10 to +12, it's only a small %10 increase. This should help Temporal Boots upgraders since getting it slotted is hard enough, let alone get the right random enchant you want A tiny help with a +8% to +5% increase from +13 to +15 to help the sudden increase of new players that are all Rangers (not just for WB) that just want a high-upgrade White Wing Suit. It's not for my benefit. I already have high-upgraded White Wing Suits. Those you can risk breaking anyways since Anubis drops them easy A measly 2% to 1% increase on +16 onwards. And at the highest levels, no increase at all. If you think this suggestion spawned mainly from my loss of 23 Blessed Ores, then see how at the +9 level, where I lost all those ores, it's only a 5% increase Heck, even the admin added a +15% chance for all upgrading chances (if you're a Mechanic) for weapon upgrading, months ago. And he's more better known for nerfing things [not intended as an insult. Just an observation. I still want to be able to post in the Buying/Selling section] Upgrade Current Refine Success Rate Suggested Refine Success Rate Total Suggested Increase +1 100% 100% +0% +2 100% 100% +0% +3 100% 100% +0% +4 100% 100% +0% +5 60% 80% +20% +6 40% 65% +25% +7 40% 50% +10% +8 20% 35% +15% +9 20% 25% +5% +10 10% 20% +10% +11 8% 18% +10% +12 8% 18% +10% +13 8% 16% +8% +14 8% 14% +6% +15 7% 12% +5% +16 7% 9% +2% +17 7% 9% +2% +18 7% 8% +1% +19 5% 5% +0% +20 5% 5% +0% That's a bit of a blanket statement though. We're not talking about high-end gears in general. This is exclusively just upgradeable armor we're talking about. Are you going to start getting bored if you now have a +14 armor? Or will other things be the major contributing factor to the boredom? Such as a fewer amount of WoE1 participants? Only 6 people active in WoE2? Empty PVP room? Lack of BG players? Instances not being there because they're not yet implemented? Most of everyone is AFK and there's no one to talk to? Daily Quests feeling like a chore? I would say that having a high upgrade armor would be one of the last things you'd think of that's making you bored XD If we focus on the negative... there would be two things that would distract you from enjoying the game, aside from real life troubles and Marxists. Boredom, like you said. Or frustration for: refine rates causing you to waste your ores or for constant EBF-only loots from World Bosses, your friends getting temporarily banned for weeks, inflated prices for common MVPs, career scammers still being around, dealers/sellers not knowing how to negotiate a price, etc Also, if you're going to connect boredom with the reason behind people quitting... throughout the years, I've heard it's because of certain skills being nerfed, no instant-cast in renewals, becoming busier at work or at school, or going to college, taking care of your kids... but I have yet to hear a good number of people quit because they're now bored of their +13 to +15 armor I don't meant to sound impolite but.. having a high upgrade armor would be one of the last things that would potentially cause a spike of boredom in the server I have no problem with those suggestions either
  8. 4 points
    Khaii

    Armor Refinement Increase

    There are already many ways to get blessed/Hd ores~ -The are some blessed ores in daily rewards +loyalty box ( Yes, you might not get the refine certi + the right ores you want.. But stil its something) -New invadings rewards (Yes, low chance~ But i like how it motivates people to do special invadings now.) - For people who already got what they want during woe by using the fragments ... They also can spend on it. - High-end gears are supposed to take time to finnish it.. Not something we should get in 1,2,3~ - Safe certi is a choice for hard workers~ (We can just simply suggest something like kat did. ) Conclusion : Instead of increasing the chance for refining.. Shouldn't we think up a way for how to get players motivated in BG,Woe,invadings etc etc..? Like add some ores for mining part (Wil bring miths alive in a balance price of 40~50mil, while able to find other ores such as (enriched,Hd ores)Blessed is possible too.. maybe in a very low chance to keep the economy in balance. 1. I like how @Everade implemented the new reward for invadings/captain kid's/Mr giveaway. (See how many people we get for the invadings lately =+1 ~people stay inside pvp for abit longer + anyone can get the chance = +1 ~ Mr giveaway to gear up new player's/old player's who just came back in a fast way to keep them ingame =+1) 2. Im oke with @Hersheys suggestion on +6 safe certi by using woe fragments 3. I am with @D e M o N on this. I wil have to say no too :/ ps. Every online game should have something to risk with~ If we have to compare it to old school/back then... there's no such things as safe certi,blessed ores..
  9. 4 points
    Mai~

    costume baphomet hat problem :o

    halo gms! im new here for only four months i bought this item costume baphomet hat from that new chara in advanture guild on retmysever and other online this has effects but when i wear it here it has non this item supposd to give hp increse but it deosnt give it ive been doing quest daily for coupons to save to get refined my wapons and armor when i get neough emperium frag takes me long bwcause i go to school and only can play war of emperuim on saturdays but i wnted to get costume bapho first because it will be gone when haloween event over now it feel like wasted that it no effect. 400 coupon b was use to get it that took me two month and two weeks to save and it give no add hp maybe i shud just save it to upgraed my items but that 400 gone now pls help fix it gms because i test it and it rly give no hp thnak you!
  10. 4 points
    Nicocaine

    Screenshot Thread

  11. 3 points
    Hersheys

    Armor Refinement Increase

    Damn. That's like 3 months worth of Blessed Ores. A week or two more if you can only get 40 per WoE (If you can get 50 Frags per WoE and do it 3x a week: that would be 3 from the WoE shop, 1 from Daily Rewards, per month) Also just wanted to put it out there that: From just this year 2017, out of 148 other threads (spanning from Page 1 to Page 6) in this Feedback & Suggestions section, no thread has had a whooping 25 people of the community (3 of which are ex-GM's) in agreement with the topic starter and all given a +1 recommendation from either a reply post of a "+1" or a "Like" on the thread's first post (1 person "Liked" the thread's first post but didn't post an actual "+1" reply to the topic). Feel free to fact check and count the amount of +1's in this thread, and the amount of +1's in heavily posted threads from Page 1 to 6 To put that into perspective, 25 is nearly the entire amount of participants during recent WoE 1's If a voice asking for change is being searched for.. to know what players actually want... this thread may very well be that whisper And to whomever just got into reading this long thread now, the table below summarizes the suggestion: Armor Upgrade Current Refine Success Rate Suggested Refine Success Rate Total Suggested Increase +1 100% 100% +0% +2 100% 100% +0% +3 100% 100% +0% +4 100% 100% +0% +5 60% 80% +20% +6 40% 65% +25% +7 40% 50% +10% +8 20% 35% +15% +9 20% 25% +5% +10 10% 20% +10% +11 8% 18% +10% +12 8% 18% +10% +13 8% 16% +8% +14 8% 14% +6% +15 7% 12% +5% +16 7% 9% +2% +17 7% 9% +2% +18 7% 8% +1% +19 5% 5% +0% +20 5% 5% +0%
  12. 3 points
    Ryu Sakamoto

    Armor Refinement Increase

    +1 to @Khaii Also agree with how poorly designed renewal was but still I don't think this would answer the issues for new players with regards to equipment issues. Its not exactly newbie-friendly in a sense that you didn't even add options for new players to gain access to the metals needed for the refines. For a game to be rewarding you need invest time... if you don't then no one's to blame... you can't blame the game for that... I have my gmorn at +9 and its not like I'm rushing it to +14... if I don't get it now, I'll do something about it later, if I break it then I suck... that's about it... no need to blame the game. Adding options on where to get the metals is the best option in my opinion and its not like +7-+9 certs are not accessible through farming. P.S. Let's not make salty remarks this is just my honest opinion
  13. 3 points
    Everade

    Armor Refinement Increase

    We've made several re-designs of our refinement system, most of them were only smaller changes. Compared to old gRO / pre-renewal, the chances are about the same, but with additional helpful items. Please note that 10 additional refinement levels have been added on top of that, and that reaching +20 is very unrealistic/extremely hard. And we're well aware about that. gRO isn't a full Ragnarok redesign, we're still based on the original. Our current refine rates are higher than official, and we're offer on top of that a lot of additional refinement systems to prevent your gear from breaking. @Hersheys Finally stop with your false allusions, it's a chore to read it in every single post. Think it and keep it to yourself if you hate me so much. The only thing i hate are your false accusations and that you think you can speak for me. Sidenote: Please keep in mind that increasing the chances will simply move the harder part further back to the higher refinement levels which means it will not help new players by any means. That's basically just a wrong illusion. I'm not saying no to the suggestions made here, just my 2 cents after reading through.
  14. 3 points
    Bio Lab03 MvPs are powerful monsters and their cards grant a powerful effect. However, the High Priest card was made useless after the effect of Assumptio was reworked many years ago. It would be great if we could make it useful on GatheringRO. To make it useful and attractive while keeping it balanced, I propose the following to replace (or be added to) the effect of High Priest card: Increases effectiveness of Healing skills by 20%. (1 of the effects from Level 10 Meditatio) Maximum SP +10%. (1 of the effects from Level 10 Meditatio) bonus bHealPower,20; bonus bMaxSPrate,10; [Monk Class] Maximum SP -50%. (So that Suras' CANNOT use this card for increasing Asura damage) if(BaseJob==Job_Monk) bonus bMaxSPrate,-50; Every time you receive a Magical or Physical Damage, 1% chance to auto-spell Level 1 Basilica on yourself. (This provides a benefit that is also a liability ) bonus5 bAutoSpellWhenHit,"HP_BASILICA",1,1,BF_WEAPON|BF_MAGIC,0; Drains 65,000 SP when the compounded armor is unequipped. (This provides the penalty for using the card as well as prevents from being used for switching armors) { heal 0,-65000; } (Should be put in last bracket of item script)
  15. 2 points
    Dany

    Armor Refinement Increase

    +1 for the increase of refine rate, it doesnt impact much beyond +15 so it sounds fair to me !
  16. 2 points
    iausbrecher

    Armor Refinement Increase

    +1 I agree to the suggestion. Refining armors are quite difficult.
  17. 2 points
    Yzobel

    BG WINS REWARD

    +1 to the idea @aketsu i am always ready to go for BG though i am lay low at the moment, having phobia on something i haven't done wrong.
  18. 2 points
    Aketsu

    BG WINS REWARD

    Would be nice to have sone feedbacks to the suggestion... @to everyone stay in topic pls XD is for the whole good u.u
  19. 2 points
    symbio

    Armor Refinement Increase

    +1 for this. proposed idea for refinement is actually make sense for current condition of gRO.
  20. 2 points
    Hersheys

    Armor Refinement Increase

    But now you're generalizing it as every gear. This suggestion is only for upgradeable armors. Most specially the account bound armors. Valk Shields and White Wing Suits can be farmed easily that it won't be such a bother if they break. The MAJOR effect of this suggestion is to increase the success rates of: Upgrading +4 to +5 Armor by 20% Upgrading +5 to +6 Armor by 25% Upgrading +6 to +7 Armor by 10% Upgrading +7 to +8 Armor by 15% [and from +8 to +9, it's only a minuscule 5% increase] Question, which +5 to +8 armors are "OP"? If the class you play will benefit from Emperium Armors Set, this is how long it will take you to get each, if you average at 40 Emp Frags and WoE 3x a week: Emperium Armor (600 frags) = 1 Month and a Week Emperium Cape (500 frags) = 1 Month Emperium Boots (500 frags) = 1 Month Emperium Buckler / Shield (450 frags) = nearly 1 Month (Optional. Not part of the set) Just to get the set will take you 3 months and a Week. None are upgraded yet. The Buckler/Shield will cost you nearly another month Oh? Maybe you want the Emp accessories and the Emp Wings instead? Emperium Gauntlet/Gloves (900 if you want to have two of any) = Almost 2 Months Emperium Wings = 2 Months and a Week Now, what if you need more than 1 or two of each armor, for armor switching? That's how many months more? Again, none are even upgraded yet I'm not sure if this qualifies as "stupid easily" to obtain, let alone upgrade. I'm not complaining about the WoE Shop prices. I'm just saying that those aren't stupid easy to get I agree! +14 White Wing Suit with three Expert Archer (3, 3, 5) enchants +15 Temporal VIT [1] Boot with the desired random enchant Megingard Sleipnir Brisingamen Any +15 Crimson Weapon with the desired element +12 Faceworm Gigant Skin with a Special VIT and two other +5 VIT enchants +18 Balmung [3] (that Everade nerfed to +15) +12 Bangungot Bayani Boots [1] +13 Chilly Spellbook with two Spell3 enchants Those gears seem "overly stupid powerful" and it will take a lot of time to get those Curious, in how many months do you think would be the ideal time frame in order to get any of the aforementioned non-weapon items? Heck, on that list, even that Crimson Weapon (which has a higher refine success rate, compared to armor) takes a lot of farming to get. A ton of time. I've known people that farmed nearly two hundred Crimson Bows and only managed to reach +13. Mind you, they drop at a 1.5% chance each too. It's going to take you a good hour to just get even 10 of those, on average. Even just the upgrading process will take you a good 2 to 3 hours, with nearly 200 of those. Should it take a lot of time? Yes. Can we say the same for a single +10 Emperium/BG Armor? This suggestion is not for everything. It's only for upgradeable armors and it mostly affects those +8 and under. You're over generalizing XD This can be done regardless of this suggestion
  21. 2 points
    Valkrie

    Armor Refinement Increase

    +1 For this idea
  22. 2 points
    Kaze

    Armor Refinement Increase

    Well after days of reading this I guess I will throw in my two cents. I'm in favor of things staying as is. I dont like the idea of being able to get op gear stupid easily. It should take lots of hard work and dedication to get overly stupid powerful gear. Sure the argument of its hard for newbies to get caught up and that the server population is small. But dont most of you here already have enough stuff as it is to help new players out with starter equipment? Invite them into your guild. teach them the ways. There are plenty of other ways to appeal to new players other than making everything stupid easy to obtain. I may not have been back long but I personally like how things are.
  23. 2 points
    lancelot

    Armor Refinement Increase

    This is a long thread wow. Anyway based on the arguments and who will benefit it, I think it's for a good cause. +1 to the increase refinement or to the frag system reward.
  24. 2 points
    Aketsu

    Armor Refinement Increase

    +1 to nico's suggestion and to hersheys @Khaii I think that improving the refinment system, wich is totally wrong in renewal (in pre-renewal you were able to get an item to +10 with hard work, in renewal it's impossible to get a +20 item even with hard work), is one more thing to do togheter with your suggestions (bg, mining improvements ecc.) I have to say that as a new player when I understood how the emp fragment system work I was sure that I would never spend that amount of fragment for blessed ore/weap ecc (it is totally not worth it if you think on the amount of fragment and the time you need to collect them. It will be different if you will be able to collect 200 frags every woe). Refinement system definetely need an improvement, not blaming Everade idd but I'm sure he can do something cool about it.
  25. 2 points
    Gale Windscar

    Prism Helm

    1. If possible at all, I would like to suggest to have Prism's changing of effect be unlock-able and changing of sprite not consume the headgear. That instead of changing the permanently changing the effect of the Prism, we can unlock the effects by providing the needed requirements for them and change to anything we unlocked without providing the requirements for the 2nd time. Before, people create multiple Prisms in multiple accounts for the different effects. Also, with the introduction of Costumes, Prism who was one of the prime fashion choices has now lost its edge, maybe removing the restriction it consumes the headgear for the sprite give it back its edge as a God Helm. 2. Prism#4 has no real advantage over Lux/Pimp Hat (in connection with suggestion #1) as a God Helm. Maybe something like + SP Regen or + Max SP would be great.
  26. 2 points
    Gale Windscar

    Armor Refinement Increase

    +1 to the idea! will think about the rates Just as input, I broke 2 Immune Shields going from +5 to +6 even with Enriched Eluniums fml I honestly think that our refine rates are steep esp from +5-+7 range (I understand that +9 and over is low to prevent op equips), that you are forced to use safe certificates in order to make use of HD Elus and etc. and given how hard it is to get high end gears (WB equips, BG sets, Emp set) now and that they are untradeable - a rate just a bit higher than official wouldn't serve its purpose because of the difference in circumstances (more players in official that has the gears that they upgrade circulate through the market and easier access to upgrade stones too.) Hoping for the best
  27. 2 points
    I do also think that GTB is a bit higher than 300m but not absurdly high as 1b, probably as Khai stated. It remains as one of the most useful MVP cards in game: 400m - 500m sounds fair. The problem with cards like Ifrit is how it suddenly went boom on demand (popularized by crit ranger builds vs WB) - effectively raising it's market price due to limited supply; so many people are looking for it and virtually no one sells it. I've been pubbing for one a few weeks ago and decided to just drop it because of OP offers if not none at all. As for Aketsu and D e M o N's argument, I think you are in a thin line of agreement here. Aketsu pointing out that these prices are hard to go by in-game, but that's exact the reason why the thread was started - to stabilize the MVP prices as much as possible so the newbies do not fall prey to OP MVP prices. I know your sentiment of how hard it is to buy MVP cards atm because no one is willing to sell them at the price - I've been forced to just hunt for the ones I need too because of this. Yes, you do have the right to pay more or less - these are just baseline prices. The issue of someone paying for more because they want an item so bad is different from someone charging someone for more on a daily basis - the aim of this thread is to lessen if not eradicate the latter.
  28. 2 points
    Ahhw darn, no Asura usage The script text can be hardly read with the text color it's in btw Well, not that my opinion matters on things like these anwyays, but +1 since HP card is just shiny garbage This topic will just get ignored, I have a feeling XD
  29. 2 points
    Shuichi

    Ayuda con uno de mis personajes :(!!

    Hola Tomoe, primero bienvenido a GatheringRO! Personalmente, a mi puedes encontrarme los fines de semana por la tarde (soy de México) así que no hay problema (mi char es Shuichi). Acerca de tu problema, probablemente no usaste los skills points cuando cambiaste de job, a mi me pasó algo similar hace años. Como dice Khai arriba en su punto dos, es lo que a mi parecer deberías intentar. Cualquier otra duda, puedes mandarme PM a mi char
  30. 2 points
    D e M o N

    Fixes & Updates

    There are a few items still below 1% drop rate: Item ID# 1472 (Staff_Of_Soul) - Owl Marquis / Owl Baron drop it at 0.10% Item ID# 2971 (Pocket_Watch) Item ID# 7477 (Cookbook06) Item ID# 7478 (Cookbook07) Item ID# 7479 (Cookbook08) Item ID# 7480 (Cookbook09) Item ID# 7481 (Cookbook10) Item ID# 15089 (Menswear) - Time Holder / Owl Marquis drop it at 0.30%, Owl Viscount drops it at 0.10% Item ID# 16024 (Quadrille_) - Time Holder drops it at 0.50%, Owl Viscount drops it at 0.10% Item ID# 18874 (Cyclops_Glasses) - Owl Marquis and Owl Viscount drop it at 0.10%
  31. 2 points
    Koxy

    @joinbg pls

    @joinbg pls
  32. 2 points
    Olga

    GM Castle and Rewards

    I hope there could be better changes with it... the items in it and the rotation rules apply to higher population / older updates. Stacked with 5 castle invis, i think im gonna have children before i could even have the chance to use them all up xD Also the improvement with the item / effects, the renewal gears are catching up to it in terms of being "better" than average gears during that time of release. Or atleast any better changes ?
  33. 2 points
    I think that this should be implemented to make playing time more valuable. Obtaining shadow gears is like waiting for a blue moon to appear and thus making it a lucrative commodity. That is why Safe Certificate should be applied to this.
  34. 2 points
    Koxy

    costume baphomet hat problem :o

    Thanks for notifing, i dont even know it. btw, welcome to GRO. .
  35. 2 points
    Kaze

    GUESS WHO'S BACK

    GUESS WHO'S BACK
  36. 2 points
    Nicocaine

    yooooo! sup?

    yooooo! sup?
  37. 1 point
    Gale Windscar

    Malangdo Enchants

    The slotted versions can't be slotted because these are a custom feature for gRO, thus the items produced are also custom. Thus the official script doesn't take them to account. Would also be rad if Malangdo Enchants work without having to equip the said item, because the coins are untradeable/unstoreable unllike Seagod's Anger.
  38. 1 point
    Gale Windscar

    Armor Refinement Increase

    Because unlike official our population is low (not to mention that high end-gears are mostly account-bound), more people farm things and so it's easier to get the equipment that you'd want to upgrade. For example, Temporal Boots. In official or other servers, these flood the markets - that even if you break them, you can just buy them if you don't have the time to farm them yourself (which is mostly the case in old players). It's even worse with account-bound items - it's certainly not worth the risk, it almost forces people to do DQ in order to get Safe Refine Tickets, because it takes so much time to farm these high-end gears. I'm just not a big fan of forcing a player to do DQs to have these, not all players have the time and patience for this (I speak for others since I do DQs a lot myself), I believe always having alternatives has been a charm of games. And as I see it, RO is going to a refine-heavy game with all the new (and upcoming) equips/cards that gives bonuses depending on their refine levels. And with the server population as it is, there's not much people that farm these new items (instances) and that our high-end gears are all account-bound and time-consuming to obtain (w/o alternative ways)
  39. 1 point
    Gale Windscar

    Prism Helm

    What I mean by unlocking is that you can change to any other effect that you have previously provided the requirement before w/o providing another set of the requirements for the 2nd time.
  40. 1 point
    Patronus

    Armor Refinement Increase

    Hi!! That one is a good idea about refining boost. But I can't completely agree with the idea since we already have Enriched Eluniums, HD Eluniums, and HD Carniums. Each ore type has its own role in upgrading, so, boosting the armor upgrade will affect a lot of things. imo Also, if I may suggest. What about applying the idea into an Event like Althea invasion. Which will occur like for 1 hour/30 mins, randomly once in every 1 month, the upgrade success rate will be boosted. Is that possible? I was just wondering. That would be better than permanently boosting the success rate.
  41. 1 point
    Gale Windscar

    MvP Cards and Rare Item Price List

    I daresay it is a big help to new players, even though the prices are not 100% (as mentioned in the beginning of the post) it can serve as a guide to new buyers and sellers. Variances in the prices will always exist, the list isn't saying that the cards should be exactly in the price range (because that is impossible as of now and that's a harsh reality), but it is a situation that we all - I believe, yearn to achieve. Consensus and feedback is the key to this thread, it just started and it may not be 100% accurate - which why we should strive to give input with reasoning to support our claims (like what you did when you talked about TGen). If only more players would be active in the forums. Edit: Just a thought, maybe we can split the MVPs to different tiers depending their usefulness and rarity? Low, Mid, High, God.
  42. 1 point
    Hersheys

    MvP Cards and Rare Item Price List

    I actually did get to buy a GTB for 300M just very recently. But it took me about 3 weeks of pubbing to find someone that sold one though
  43. 1 point
    1% is enough for me, gtb card is worth only 200-300m for you but nobody sold one in the last months for less than 900m-1b... that should be enough to understand that you are not thinking it rly well. Again I tell you that what you have in mind and the reality (ingame) is DAMN different. Anyway nobody force me to buy an item for 3b, I have the freedom to choose if it's worth to spend those money or not! If I want to spend 1b for a gtb card because nobody is selling one for a cheaper price since months it is my personal decision. Should I wait 3-4-5-6 months that someone else sell the card for a cheaper price......???? Should I blame the only guy selling a gtb card for 1b? NO! Nobody sell this card -> the price go higher... everyone sell a gtb card -> the price go down. Easy. Again, good luck with that.
  44. 1 point
    D e M o N

    MvP Cards and Rare Item Price List

    I have edited my post and updated the the list. Thank you Sir!
  45. 1 point
    Koxy

    World Boss Spawn Time

    What he meant is the timing between website & ingame time is different. The website time still follow the old time while the ingame time -1hour.
  46. 1 point
    D e M o N

    Repairman NPC

    What about combining healer with repair script? (1 click Repair)
  47. 1 point
    Kaze

    Game Master Jobs

    WEEEEELL I'm no super member and I haven't been back long...But I guess thats not stopping me from trying to apply regardless? I've been around since before the last server wipe and spent many many years on the server. So what makes me special is I'm a veteran I guess? I'm very friendly. I love to help people. I feel you should choose me because I truly care about the server. Gro was my home away from home back when I was in high school. And seeing how much things have changed and how much stuff has been added I want to be able to help Gro grow and see it full of life again. I'm willing to do anything in my power to help get the ball rolling again! I dont really have a special skill. But like I have already stated. I'm willing to try learning. I just wanna see the server grow. But I guess I have the uncanny ability to connect with people easily if that is considered a skill ;D
  48. 1 point
    Everade

    Mora enchants - bug

    I have now tested it ingame myself. It is working perfectly fine. If it fails on the second attempt, it only removes the enchantments, but the gear is preserved. (it is being returned into your inventory) The gear can only break during the third attempt.
  49. 1 point
    Everade

    Homunculus S

    https://github.com/rathena/rathena/commit/53ba373c43d373a6259e53d40dab26e66f8abf5a The sp issue has also been addressed
  50. 1 point
    akira21

    Geographer Decoration Quest

    a trick for getting 100 animal poops instantly is finding the [MVP] Dracula *gef_dun01* and using an area skill like Metoer Assault, Arrow storm etc or Reflect Shield/Damage or Vmant.. you can kill his familiars instantly and since he summons 10-15 at a time you can collect 100 in a few minutes... you can use Anodyne for Endure to keep on picking the Animal poops w/o delay
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